Holistic Health Round Table

Meet Our Experts

• Brenda Kaser, L.AC.  

Longevity Acupuncture, Bozeman

www.bozemanlongevityacupuncture.com

• Dagmar Uhl, Doctor of Homeopathy 

Live Well Health, Classical Homeopathy, Gallatin Gateway

• Kathy Mangan, AdvCBP 

Body in Balance BodyTalk, Missoula

www.redwillowcenter.org/Kathy_Mangan

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• Margaret Beeson, ND 

Yellowstone Naturopathic Clinic, Billings

www.yncnaturally.com

• Mary Loveless, LMT, PTA 

Myofascial Release, Craniosacral Therapy. 

Back in Motion Integrative Therapy, Great Falls 

www.MyofascialReleaseMontana.com

• Phil Robison, Craniosacral Therapy (CST)

Energy Shift for Wellness, Helena

www.energyshiftforwellness.com

Describe your specialty...

Margaret: I am a primary care physician who uses a “natural” approach. 

Dagmar: Classical Homeopathy treats the whole person, not just a symptom. With homeopathy, it’s you, in a sense, healing yourself. Homeopathy will give you a push, then you have to follow that push. 

Phil: Craniosacral Therapy works with the soft tissue, the fascia, which is the “glue” that surrounds the bones, muscles, and organs in the body. The fascial membrane system is a continuous sheath that goes everywhere. Light touch allows me to get in and work on that system.

Brenda: Both Acupuncture and Craniosacral Therapy place each patient’s current issues within the context of their bigger picture. Craniosacral Therapy offers a physical, hands-on way to address what is being held in the body. Acupuncture with needles is a more energetic, long-term therapy. It’s deeper. 

Kathy: BodyTalk is a hands-on form of energy work. Energy medicine gives information to the body in order to facilitate a healthier state of being. 

Lynn: BodyTalk incorporates Chinese Medicine, Acupuncture, Osteopathic and Chiropractic techniques, Psychology, Vedic Philosophy, the Meridians and Chakras, Neurology and Western Physiology.

What excites you about your work?

Lynn: Working on the cutting edge of healthcare. In BodyTalk, we allow our clients to take us wherever they need to go.

Margaret: I get excited by the relationships and seeing how often people get well with such a simple approach.

Dagmar: When I get to know a person, then I know how to treat them. In homeopathy, like cures like. It’s really exciting to find a similar remedy for what is going on for that person.

Mary: Helping someone be centered again. Centered means balanced, experiencing more joy, less pain, and more movement. 

What kind of results are you getting?

Phil: If a client is interested in working at an emotional level, a lot of long standing issues can get resolved. Very often chronic pain is alleviated if not resolved. A sense of deep relaxation and well-being is pretty universal as clients get off the table. 

Brenda: In relationship to the goal of treatment, it gets resolved 80% of the time. That’s not always the biggest healing that goes on. I have people in the 20% category who continue to get treatment because of the benefits in other areas of their life.

Kathy: Success in reaching goals is very high. Sometimes that happens in one session, sometimes over the course of many BodyTalk sessions.

Margaret: Excellent. Amazing. We have patients from as far away as Illinois and California. 

Dagmar:  It depends on the sickness in that person, on how long they’ve had a condition, how willing they are to change their lives. You work deeper so that health can really manifest. That’s really possible in homeopathy. 

What do pain or symptoms communicate?

Phil: Something isn’t right. It could be an emotional holding. Maybe the body has compensated for years and now it’s worn out and can’t compensate any longer. The nerves might be affected, or there might be inflammation and swelling which often cause pain. 

Mary: Pain is memory unless it’s acute—e.g. you just fell or are getting stitches. When you have pain that doesn’t resolve, that’s chronic, that’s memory.

Brenda: In the simplest terms, symptoms are a sign that energy isn’t moving properly. In the way that a boulder will block a stream and cut off the flow, energy stagnation will cause pain or other symptoms. 

Do you ever send patients back to medical doctors? Example?

Margaret: Often. For instance, if I want to get a very specific diagnosis, or if a person needs a particular procedure like a colonoscopy. We want to know what we’re treating and that it’s within our scope of practice, whether a natural approach might work. Or, we want to see if it requires something more, like surgery or a more appropriate medication. 

Brenda: Health works on a continuum. Chinese Medicine does very well with about 80% of that continuum/scope. When you get to the extreme end, Western Medicine is the way to go. For instance if you’re bleeding or have a broken bone. 

Dagmar: I’m a nurse, so I come out of medicine. I’m definitely not against medicine. 

Kathy: In a holistic system, that potential to refer is always there. The ability to send someone somewhere else is part of the BodyTalk system, it’s part of the deal. 

Do medical doctors refer patients to you?

Dagmar: In Germany, that happens more often. Classical Homeopathy is more known there. You have to have a license to practice. 

Mary: Yes, and Chiropractors. Some things treated chiropractically will keep going back out of alignment until the soft tissue is addressed.

Phil: All of the time, yes. Usually I get the clients who have tried tons of other things and are still in pain.

Kathy: Yes, especially neurologists. General Practitioners refer when they can’t figure out what’s wrong with people. I also share a lot of clients with psychologists and therapists. They know what BodyTalk is and have seen patients respond to it.

Brenda: Yes, as well as Nurse Practitioners and Physical Therapists, Counselors and Psychologists. It takes time for them to know that you’re reliable and know what you’re doing. 

Margaret: Often, if they can’t figure out how to treat a given issue or if a patient requests a more natural approach, they will refer to us. Also when a person is having difficulty tolerating conventional medication.

How does a person choose which of these modalities to try? 

Margaret: If the symptom is something that we really don’t understand, a Naturopath can order tests, then help a person sort out options, look at the big picture, discuss what might address the issue, what treatment might be appropriate, and make referrals.

Phil: Most people need to experiment to find which modalities work best for them. 

Dagmar: People need to be educated about all these things, read books, do Internet research. Or they can take a class to learn. Sometimes people call and ask what I’m doing. If you’re educated, you can trust your instincts, “This matches. This is a good fit for me.” 

Brenda: Different approaches resonate for different situations at different times in your life. Find a practitioner that you trust, someone who, if they feel like they can’t help you, will send you to the person who can.

What is the most important thing people can do for well being?

Margaret: Listen to the messages from the body. That’s what symptoms are, messages. Learn to listen and to understand messages from your body.

Kathy: Be grateful for what is.

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